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Until Google makes it impossible to do or devises negative consequences for doing it, it's fair game. Score: 3 , Insightful by letxa writes: Until Google makes it impossible to do or devises negative consequences for doing it, it's fair game. Thank you, you are confirming exactly what I said. It's sad that some people see things like this as "fair game. It's like the old "freakers" that used Black Boxes to get free calls on the long distance network decades ago. Yes, they could do it, but should they?

Phreaking is a very important part of computing history. Also don't forget that Apple Computers was partially found with money made on manufacture of blue boxes. It's sad that it's not the script kiddies that are going to force Google to have to put limits on their service, but their "friends" in the geek community. I implemented the prototype of this system many years ago using an encoding system called First-Post.

I simply use different permuations of the words first-post FP! I run the whole thing off ny Newton. There may be more comments in this discussion. Without JavaScript enabled, you might want to turn on Classic Discussion System in your preferences instead.

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This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted. Full Abbreviated Hidden. More Login. This seems horribly abusive of Google. Score: 5 , Insightful. They've already made it plain they don't want third-party email account checkers; now you're going to subject them to transient file storage addons? Share twitter facebook. Re:This seems horribly abusive of Google.

Score: 2 , Funny. What is the big deal? The only thing left is finding an unintrusive way to show google adds for the file system. Score: 2 , Informative. Black hat hacking is clearly causing white hat hackers to lose toys these days XM clearly went out of their way to provide an easy-to-hack-with-a-computer model of their devices.

However, they provided that model with the unspoken proviso that it must be used ethically. Along comes a programmer with script-kiddie level skills who makes an automatic MP3 maker program that uses that device. That alone would have been fine by XM. Furthermore, once media attention discovers his program, he raises the price.

That's the kind of thing that awakens the sleeping RIAA, and the RIAA orders XM to send the programmer a legal nastygram in order to show that he is approching the limits of an untested area of law. Of course, Slashdot groupthink blames XM for the letter and calls for a boycott.

Please people RTFM before you start hacking anything. Especially, follow what the device makers tell you not to do, and don't try to seek direct obvious profits from your hacking. Parent Share twitter facebook. Score: 3 , Insightful. Unfortunately in the case of the XM application, "Fair use" goes out the window because you specifically waive the right when you agree to the ToS from XM which specifically disallows recording.

Thus, it is a little "black hat" in that this guy broke his contract with XM and encouraged others to do so. The question of whether or not XM ought to be allowed to enforce such a restriction in their contract or whether such a restriction is legal or fair is a related, but completely different argument. You can sa. Note that if "broadband" ISPs had slightly less-restrictive terms of service, then this advantage would be irrelevant too, because you could easily place your own hard drive available for remote mounting.

They're smaller than a CD, even. It's much easier to damage or lose a USB disk than a gmail account. I am pretty sure more. Score: 4 , Insightful. Score: 5 , Interesting.

You give companies too much credit. If a company wanted something to really be hack friendly, there would be no complaints when it was hacked. They are not hack friendly if they complain about hacks. Your script kiddy comment is pretty lame. If the company made a product that someone with no skillz can hack it then the company got what they deserved.

Imagine the profit that company can make until some script kiddy realizes it is only ROT15 and hacks it. It happens all the time with software and hardware. Remeber the CueCat? Wireless phone companies and makers Cellular and cordless phones started with and to some extent still use this exact business model. They were using analog signal totally unencrypted for anyone with a radio scanner to hear, cellular in the mhz region and cordless in the 49mhz and mhz region.

These devices started to catch on and get a foothold. Suddenly the consumers started to wake up and realize anyone with a scanner or a UHF TV tuner could pick up these signals.

Yes, on purpose, they chose to use something very unsecure, made no real attempt to make it known it was unsecure [1]. How did they fix it? Went to congress. Congress eventually gave them what they wanted and banned the cellular region from new scanner radios and made it illegal for people to knowingly listen to cellular and cordless freqs. The phone making companies knew all along these transmissions were open to anyone with a radio that picked up those bands, they chose to ignore it, not develop anything or use readily available technology at the time to encode or encrypt it because it would have cost them more money.

They were not hacker friendly, just trying to make more money. To this day, analog cordless and wireless phone signals are still able to be picked up by anyone in plain form, although it illegal to do it yeah, that is the only thing preventing it.

Luckily for the most part, analog has been replaced on the cordless side with digital and digital spread spectrum and wireless has gone almost all digital with various methods of encryption and encoding. With that, it takes more then a consumer radio to eavesdrop now. The only reason companies make and sell products is to make money. If they think it will sell, they will produce it. Many claim codes, extra privacy or security features, prevention of unauthorized use etc.. It appears to be on purspoe that these security descriptions are very vague.

Score: 4 , Interesting. This is not an abuse of Google. Performance will be abismal. This is really just expression of "I could do it". They did not go "out of their way". They did it to sell more subscriptions. This program actually makes XM radio more marketable. It has to be about Google to be newsworthy, hasn't it?

They've already made it plain they don't want third-party email account checkers Could someone please show me where Google made it clear they specifically don't want 3rd party email account checkers? Re:where's the evidence? Score: 5 , Informative. That doesn't matter. Score: 3 , Informative. It's invite only because it's not done yet.

Score: 3 , Interesting. Actually, I'd guess that the invite system puts an upper limit on the resources google needs to commit to gmail. Score: 3 , Funny. I totally agree with you on this. Which brings up another point Score: 4 , Informative. It's not the usage of the space they object to, rather the fact that many unneccesary http connections from mail checkers and the like slow the servers down.

Which brings up another point Score: 4 , Funny. They probably expect people to fill it up slowly with E-MAIL rather than uploading their pr0n collections etc. Which brings up another point Score: 4 , Insightful. Since Paragraph 5 of the TOS [google. Score: 5 , Funny. I'm sure your trying to be funny, but just because someone said something on slashdot doesn't make it true.

Point me to some proof and part of the facts in the article aren't even true , such as google saying they don't want third party software interacting with gmail, and then the article will be true. Until then it's merely 1 person's paranoia. Competing Search Service!

Ond now we'll put up a competing internet search service using GMail disk space! Nice Score: 5 , Interesting. This is really nice, but as i see it, there are two options: 1 He gets his ass sued to hell 2 He gets a nice job at google ;. Re:Nice Score: 5 , Insightful. Re:Nice Score: 5 , Funny.

Re:Nice Score: 4 , Funny. I know of no RAID system that can recover from the sudden loss of all disks involved in the same moment without data loss. Re:Nice Score: 3 , Funny. Portable partition Score: 5 , Interesting. This could compliment a knoppix or any liveCD CD perfectly. Re: Score: 2 , Funny. Comment removed based on user account deletion. Re:Portable partition Score: 2 , Interesting. It wouln't be as limiting as connecting to my home server which is on a kb DSL connection.

The upstream is castrated at about kb. If it can be done Somebody will do it But still, does it accomodate the recent change in the login proceedure [slashdot. GoogleOS Score: 4 , Funny. Though it might seem funny it almost isn't. Think of your gmail account as your home folder or My Documents for the Windows users. That is just the start. Google has the ability to provide you with a drive that goes forever and search abilities to find anything in a snap.

The fear that Microsoft had was that their kernel would be the only thing that mattered and their API's would become irrelevant after Netscape and portable plug-ins and Java apps took over.

Look at version 4. It won't eventuate Score: 4 , Insightful. Gmail can allow up to 1GB storage based on the fact that not all email accounts are going to get anywhere near the limit, if GmailFS becomes real, Gmail would become unsustainable and where is the Ad revenue?

Re:It won't eventuate Score: 3 , Insightful. Whatever interface-ripping this tool uses, it's clear that it is dependant on GMail having the interface that it has today still operational. Google could very easily "break" this program simply by adding some clutter to it's currently pristine user interface.

This really is an action by one kid that could ruin the sandbox for everybody Joe sixpack and Stacy no-brain are not going to be using GmailFS.

If all gmail users on slashdot were to implement GmailFS, it would still be a small drop in the bucket of their total user base. Re:It won't eventuate Score: 5 , Insightful.

I find it interesting how many people are against this hack. IT seems it is Google's own fault for not finding a better revenue model. This seems exactly the same as an Xbox Linux hack. Sure, MS loses money on every XBox, but that's their fault for selling them at a lose. The same thing goes for ad stripping from web sites and apps like AIM. Yet when this one comes up that uses Google in the same way, there seems to be a decent number of people against it. Re:It won't eventuate Score: 3.

I think the difference lies in what could happen when the target company reacts. I don't think people would mourn is MS and AOL were to go bankrupt, or even simply stop producing a particular product. Whereas people are afraid something bad will happen to Google and whoever takes their place would be worse , and they don't want GMail to be pulled or crippled. And you, Sir, are a damn fool.

Can you suggest a better business model for Google? Any donkey can say "It's their fault for not finding a better revenue model". Interesting Score: 5 , Interesting. But Google is a business and they do need to make money and this would be a surefire way for them to lose money a load of their storage used up, no way to show their adverts, etc so if anyone seriously used this I can imagine their account disabled.

What I want is google officially creating or officially blessing the ones that already exist a gmail notifier app for Mozilla. Technically, using the 3rd party ones that the Mozilla community develop are against their terms of service.

They already do an official notifier but it's Windows only - a Mozilla based one would be cross platform. Just because you can Doesn't mean you should. An old adage that applies quite well even to the Internet age. Goolgle won't leave this intact long and I don't blame them a bit. Re:Just because you can Score: 2. If it can be done, someone will do it, regardless if it should be done or not. If Google doesn't want this sort of thing done with GMail, then there is obviously a security hole in GMail.

Google should work at fixing the interface to GMail so it can't be used in this way. Any other method - EULAs, legal threats, etc - won't cut it. People will still use the tools, even if they're illegal or in violation of a EULA.

And I can assume that if Microsoft had 1GB Hotmail accounts that you and other Slashdotters would discourage the use of an equivalent piece of software? Innovation Score: 4 , Interesting. This is great. If google's smart and they are they will encourage this and work out a way of benefitting from it. Is there plans on standardising on one of these API's? The status quo of not having a standardised userspace filesystem interface in the kernel is creating problems. Dont care if Google dont like it Now this is hacking.

An off the wall idea and dare I say it, something uniqu, turned inot reality. Kids, look at this as an example of what sideways thinking can do. I love it - more because the true spirit of hacking is proven alive, rather than what it does. Although, that's pretty cool too. Possibilities for the future I am pretty sure this is the type of outside use that Google is against. Even so, it may be a useful technology to incorporate INTO Google, as a future Google service, or even to be provided by other services.

A searchable public filestore: not just what people keep in their websites, but the files that they keep Intentionally made public, of course. The "technology" to do this exists in some forms already. Let us say that you are looking for a specific filename that someone has in their anonymous FTP account. Punch it into Google, and blammo! Anyway, it will be interesting to see what developes from this over the course of the next few years.

Re:Possibilities for the future Like good old Archie? Although I doubt that system is running any longer. Besides that a lot of "less legal sites" have FTP search. Typically of sites found in IRC channels. But how would [Google] generate revenue from [remote file storage]?

This could be useful Score: 5 , Interesting. I would try this. GMail Drive was unable to save files, so a new version is needed. For older Gmail accounts you may need to disable the Buzz feature in Gmail to be able to see files. Unfortunately it will not login any more. Your files are still accessible on the Gmail webpage. The tool is no longer supported After a great 10 years of service, this tool is no longer supported.

Let me give you a history recap: GMail Drive was based on the idea of a remote drive tool on Linux by Richard Jones, and immediately made headlines in It had millions of downloads, included on IT magazine CD-ROM distributions all around the world, even had coverage in a few newspaper articles, such as the New York Times, and was enjoyed by lots and lots of users.

Just a few months after its initial release, a secret document from Google was leaked hinting work on a product supposedly called G-drive. It never came to light, stopped by Google's top brass, probably to their dismay now because Microsoft would scramble to get their SkyDrive now OneDrive ready.

Today, anyone who wants to be in the Cloud business, needs to have reliable cloud storage solution to offer to their customers. The GMail Drive tool is dead. But don't despair. Lots of other remote storage options exist now, and many of them are available for a fairly low price.

And they won't store your files inside clunky e-mails either.



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